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Q&A with BNY Mellon


Published
June 18, 2024
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Matt Camuso

Head of ETF Solutions, BNY Investments

This week we sit down with Matt Camuso at BNY Investments to discuss the company’s entry and growth in the active ETF market.


BNY is a leading investment manager, with ~$2.0 trillion in assets under management across investment vehicles as of March 31, 2024. The firm entered the active ETF market in August 2021 with the launch of NYSE Arca-listed, BNY Mellon Ultra Short Income ETF (BKUI). Since then, the line-up has grown to include six active ETFs across asset classes. What led to the decision to enter the active ETF market and what is on the horizon for BNY?

As it is in every part of our business, this decision was the result of the evolving needs of our clients and the way they prefer to consume active strategies. We have seen a seismic shift in preference, as you note in these updates, with flows into active ETFs seemingly increasing momentum year on year for the past 5 years. To meet this preference by our clients, we have been hard at work bringing out our leading investment capabilities into the active ETF market, with a focus on differentiation. On the horizon you can expect more of the same as we look to add choice in certain asset classes for active strategies led by our institutional quality active management from our investment firms.

As a global asset manager what benefits and/or nuances come with operating an active ETF product line-up compared to other investment products (i.e., Mutual Funds, CITs, etc.)?

I would say the main benefit is really the operational efficiency that comes with operating an ETF relative to the other products. This is mainly driven by the unique exchange traded nature of ETFs, which brings the opportunity for liquidity to be sourced on the secondary market rather than always needing to be at the fund level. This provides our managers with additional flexibility and limits force selling of securities for active strategy purposes or tax reasons. I would also mention that we have business lines within our enterprise that span the ETF ecosystem, from asset servicing to capital markets and sub-adviser. I believe this gives us a unique perspective on the industry from all our different business lines and helps us to better support our clients.

BNY leverages seven different investment managers to deliver client solutions. How does this approach differentiate the firm and what, if any, ETF-specific challenges come from this approach?

I think this is one of our key differentiators because each one of our investment firms has a distinct and deep specialist investment expertise. BNY brings international distribution channels, brand equity, operational infrastructure, support, and influence. In addition, each of our investment firms brings a unique investment philosophy, process, approach, and culture to BNY.

What are the key considerations that investors should contemplate when considering actively managed ETFs?

We encourage investors to focus on three things with their issuer when evaluating an active ETF:

  1. How did the strategy come to market? Was it a new strategy, a cloned strategy from an existing mutual fund or SMA, or a ‘cousin’ strategy of an existing fund or a conversion from a mutual fund? The reason we encourage investors to ask this is because an investor could potentially look at the track record of the original strategy of a cloned or a cousin strategy, which could provide more data for due diligence purposes. On the conversion piece, the main thing to look for is any embedded gains that transferred over from the mutual fund, which is important to understand, especially if you are buying the ETF for tax efficiency reasons.
  2. What is the create/redeem process of the ETF? Is it all in-kind, a mix of in-kind and cash, or all cash? What you are evaluating here is the tax efficiency of that ETF and these are ranked in order of highest to lowest. Generally, in-kind creation/redemption is the most tax efficient and cash is the least tax efficient (like how mutual funds operate).
  3. What is the liquidity profile of the underlying holdings? This is an important one, because we hear time and again that an ETF does not have the ADV (average daily volume) adequate for a certain purchase. We say that the ADV of an ETF is what has BEEN traded not what can BE traded. This is because the ETF is simply just a portfolio of securities, and its true liquidity profile is dictated by the liquidity of the holdings not the product. This is where the issuer’s Capital Markets Desk and the exchanges can be great resources - we encourage investors to utilize these resources to really understand how much of an ETF can be traded in a given day because it is often a lot more than the ADV of the ETF.

Lastly, what guidance would you provide sponsors as they consider expanding their product offerings to include actively managed ETFs?

Make establishing a relationship with the exchanges and liquidity providers one of your first steps. These are, after all, ‘exchange-traded’ funds so this component is new for most, but critically important to help your investors have a good experience. This relationship is not just for when you launch the ETF either, it starts in the product development stages by working with liquidity providers to understand how the product you are considering might trade. I have spent the majority of my career in the ETF industry and am a true believer in the product, but even I will admit not everything belongs in an ETF.


Investors should consider the investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses of a fund carefully before investing. To obtain a prospectus, or a summary prospectus, if available, that contains this and other information about a fund, contact your financial professional or visit im.bnymellon.com/etf. Please read the prospectus carefully before investing.

ETF shares are listed on an exchange, and shares are generally purchased and sold in the secondary market at market price. At times, the market price may be at a premium or discount to the ETF's per share NAV. In addition, ETFs are subject to the risk that an active trading market for an ETF's shares may not develop or be maintained. Buying or selling ETF shares on an exchange may require the payment of brokerage commissions.

The ETF funds will issue (or redeem) fund shares to certain institutional investors known as “Authorized Participants” (typically market makers or other broker-dealers) only in large blocks of fund shares known as “Creation Units.” BNY Mellon Securities Corporation ("BNYMSC"), a subsidiary of BNY, serves as distributor of the fund. BNYMSC does not distribute fund shares in less than Creation Units, nor does it maintain a secondary market in fund shares. BNYMSC may enter into selected agreements with Authorized Participants for the sale of Creation Units of fund shares.

ETFs trade like stocks, are subject to investment risk, including possible loss of principal. The risks of investing in the ETF typically reflect the risks associated with the types of instruments in which the ETF invests. Diversification cannot assure a profit or protect against loss.

Bonds are subject to interest rate, credit, liquidity, call and market risks, to varying degrees. Generally, all other factors being equal, bond prices are inversely related to interest-rate changes and rate increases can cause price declines.

ETF tax efficiency can be derived from certain structural elements, including; turnover in passive strategies are typically lower than that in active; and there can be structural tax benefits from in-kind redemptions. When assets are delivered from the ETF via an in-kind transfer, no capital gains are realized. This can allow investors more control over the timing of their tax liabilities based on when they generally sell their position. This information is general in nature and is not intended to constitute tax advice. Please consult your own tax advisor or financial professional for more detailed information on tax issues as they relate to your specific situation.

This material has been distributed for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation of any particular investment, strategy, investment manager or account arrangement, and should not serve as a primary basis for investment decisions. Please consult a legal, tax or financial professional in order to determine whether an investment product or service is appropriate for a particular situation.

Views expressed are those of the author stated and do not reflect views of other managers or the firm overall. Views are current as of the date of this publication and subject to change. No part of this material may be reproduced in any form, or referred to in any other publication, without express written permission.

BNY Investments is one of the world’s leading investment management organizations, encompassing BNY’s affiliated investment management firms and global distribution companies. BNY, BNY Mellon and Bank of New York Mellon are the corporate brands of The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation and may also be used as a generic term to reference the corporation as a whole or its various subsidiaries generally. BNY Mellon ETF Investment Adviser, LLC is the investment adviser for the BNY Mellon ETFs. BNY Mellon Securities Corporation is the distributor of the BNY Mellon ETFs, each are subsidiaries of The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation.

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Active ETF Stat Pack


Firms
# of Issuers287
# of New Issuers 202427
ProductsAssets
# of ETFs1,461AUM ($B)$668.76
# of New Launches 20241823 Yr AUM CAGR45%
Avg. ER0.43%5 Yr AUM CAGR53%
Cash FlowTrading
YTD Cash Flow ($B)$108.58YTD ADV (Shares)220,989,716
3 Yr Cash Flow$359.78YTD ADV ($)$6.64 B
5 Yr Cash Flow$487.57YTD Avg. Spread (bps)*24.88

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 6/7/2024

*Simple average

Active, Semi-Transparent ETFs


TickerInceptionNameAUMYTD Flows30 Day Median Spread (bps)ADV (shares)StructureLMMExpense Ratio
VNSE9/17/20Natixis Vaughan Nelson Select ETF$32,957,631-$1,001,63114.392,471NYSE AMSCitadel0.80%
VNMC9/17/20Natixis Vaughan Nelson Mid Cap ETF$4,150,272$367,70819.93210NYSE AMSCitadel0.85%
ESGA7/15/20American Century Sustainable Equity ETF$190,757,707-$7,232,03712.517,627NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
MID.ETF7/15/20American Century Mid Cap Growth Impact ETF$65,207,613$3,831,17811.914,210NYSE AMSCitadel0.45%
ESGY7/1/21American Century Sustainable Growth ETF$15,811,680$953,83712.261,507NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
NDVG8/5/21Nuveen Dividend Growth ETF$11,305,988-$2,314,2368.193,957NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
NSCS8/5/21Nuveen Small Cap Select ETF$6,786,572$010.9497NYSE AMSCitadel0.86%
NWLG8/5/21Nuveen Winslow Large-Cap Growth ESG ETF$8,231,328$600,7218.40685NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
SAEF11/16/21Schwab Ariel ESG ETF$21,959,500$1,729,85034.282,416NYSE AMSFlow Traders0.59%
IWLG6/23/22IQ Winslow Large Cap Growth ETF$32,334,960$4,508,00022.202,507NYSE AMSCitadel0.60%
IWFG6/23/22IQ Winslow Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$9,594,860$391,77023.10448NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
TSME10/5/22Thrivent Small-Mid Cap ESG ETF$159,996,171-$9,524,4646.8254,887NYSE AMSRBC0.65%
JPSV3/8/23JPMorgan Active Small Cap Value ETF$12,809,850-$1,646,1007.341,192NYSE AMSCitadel0.74%
LSGR6/29/23Natixis Loomis Sayles Focused Growth ETF$149,481,770$135,404,68610.4139,456NYSE AMSCitadel0.59%
SGLC3/31/23SGI U.S. Large Cap Core ETF$94,775,364-$21,051,61710.9322,068NYSE AMSGTS0.85%
FDG4/2/20American Century Focused Dynamic Growth ETF$216,044,536-$6,667,40310.3810,404NYSE AMSCitadel0.45%
FLV4/2/20American Century Focused Large Cap Value ETF$206,977,431-$14,503,81710.507,445NYSE AMSCitadel0.42%
FBCG6/4/20Fidelity Blue Chip Growth ETF$1,752,400,165$442,647,8928.25375,617Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FBCV6/4/20Fidelity Blue Chip Value ETF$121,191,104-$3,757,68415.1815,965Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FFLC6/4/20Fidelity New Millennium ETF$321,382,223$108,924,31512.5158,370Fidelity ProxyGTS0.38%
FFLG2/4/21Fidelity Growth Opportunities ETF$310,111,009$24,354,19813.5259,670Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.38%
FMAG2/4/21Fidelity Magellan ETF$107,141,292$40,491,9657.9040,995Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FPRO2/4/21Fidelity Real Estate Investment ETF$11,815,914-$1,515,08913.702,348Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
FFSM2/4/21Fidelity Small/Mid-Cap Opportunities ETF$66,362,258$19,901,4996.4417,767Fidelity ProxyRBC0.43%
FSST6/17/21Fidelity Sustainability U.S. Equity ETF$13,962,573$1,237,08010.352,257Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FDWM6/17/21Fidelity Women's Leadership ETF$4,416,441$531,04212.221,383Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
TCHP8/5/20T. Rowe Price Blue Chip Growth ETF$622,099,869$51,693,9647.8486,202T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.57%
TDVG8/5/20T. Rowe Price Dividend Growth ETF$548,971,533$169,031,4417.1580,526T Rowe ProxyRBC0.50%
TEQI8/5/20T. Rowe Price Equity Income ETF$164,602,756$12,992,84011.4813,832T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.54%
TGRW8/5/20T. Rowe Price Growth Stock ETF$188,097,508$113,983,7926.1737,192T Rowe ProxyRBC0.52%
TSPA6/8/21T. Rowe Price U.S. Equity Research ETF$593,097,956$471,464,3609.13148,451T Rowe ProxyRBC0.34%
IVRA12/22/20Invesco Real Assets ESG ETF$5,244,764$1,927,00044.192,702Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
LOPP2/1/21
Gabelli Love Our Planet & People ETF
$12,356,520$032.83435ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
GGRW2/16/21Gabelli Growth Innovators ETF$4,872,060$589,24034.443,561ActiveSharesGTS0.90%
GAST1/5/22Gabelli Asset ETF$4,859,440$034.5433ActiveSharesGTS0.90%
GABF5/11/22Gabelli Financial Services Opportunities ETF$14,399,385$3,783,74022.193,396ActiveSharesGTS0.10%
GCAD1/3/23
Gabelli Commercial Aerospace & Defense ETF
$5,522,300$577,57025.84690ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
FRTY3/1/21Alger Mid Cap 40 ETF$35,145,563$2,372,32564.1810,516ActiveSharesVirtu1.19%
ATFV5/4/21Alger 35 ETF$19,309,413$3,113,82554.796,316ActiveSharesVirtu1.83%
AWEG3/7/23Alger Weatherbie Enduring Growth ETF$4,655,400$064.7054ActiveSharesVirtu1.25%
CLIA5/9/23Veridien Climate Action ETF$27,174,902$1,734,29352.552,697ActiveSharesGTS0.85%
REIT2/26/21ALPS Active REIT ETF$25,591,850$6,809,60015.086,481Blue TractorGTS0.68%
STNC3/16/21Hennessy Stance ESG Large Cap ETF$111,592,769$49,580,41545.076,384Blue TractorGTS0.85%
DYTA3/30/23SGI Dynamic Tactical ETF$57,946,200-$56,189,34719.0929,704Blue TractorGTS1.04%
PFUT5/26/21Putnam Sustainable Future ETF$260,571,897$24,980,32715.6028,861Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.64%
PLDR5/26/21Putnam Sustainable Leaders ETF$529,639,654$27,380,40710.3148,694Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
PGRO5/26/21Putnam Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$61,543,904$6,430,8949.439,871Fidelity ProxyRBC0.56%
PVAL5/26/21Putnam Focused Large Cap Value ETF$619,474,227$316,423,8056.17159,804Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.56%
HFGO11/9/21Hartford Large Cap Growth ETF$123,046,088-$418,14816.681,247Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.60%
SEMI3/30/22Columbia Seligman Semiconductor and Technology ETF$41,420,358$3,069,90019.805,389Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.75%
CAPE4/5/22DoubleLine Shiller CAPE U.S. Equities ETF$380,659,160-$91,535,20010.5840,679ActiveSharesCitadel0.65%
FMCX4/25/22FMC Excelsior Focus Equity ETF$90,965,000$556,35021.61577ActiveSharesGTS0.70%
BYRE5/19/22Principal Real Estate Active Opportunities ETF$9,674,135$900,57422.91966Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.65%
JHAC11/2/23John Hancock Fundamental All Cap Core ETF$3,262,077$547,5389.29956Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.72%
 
Total/Average$8,513,762,898$1,838,463,16719.041,472,178
 
0.64%

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 6/7/2024

*Simple average

Recent Active ETF Launches


TickerNameIssuerLaunch DateAsset ClassAUM
MAYPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - MayPGIM5/1/24Equity$2,340,548
PBMYPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - MayPGIM5/1/24Equity$4,381,589
MAYUAllianzIM U.S. Equity Buffer15 Uncapped May ETFAllianz Investment Management5/1/24Equity$13,099,750
ERNZTrueShares Active Yield ETFTrueMark5/1/24Equity$149,413,624
WEEIWestwood Salient Enhanced Energy Income ETFWestwood5/1/24Equity$8,225,630
TOGATremblant Global ETFGlobal X5/3/24Equity$101,971,978
CRSHYieldMax Short TSLA Option Income Strategy ETFYieldMax5/2/24Equity$4,448,093
JHHYJohn Hancock High Yield ETFJohn Hancock5/2/24Fixed Income$30,316,920
AGGSHarbor Disciplined Bond ETFHarbor5/2/24Fixed Income$28,506,450
SIXZAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap 6 Month Buffer10 May/Nov ETFAllianz Investment Management5/1/24Equity$7,105,918
CPSM
Calamos S&P 500 Structured Alt Protection ETF
Calamos5/1/24Equity$109,778,166
IMAYInnovator International Developed Power Buffer ETF - MayInnovator5/1/24Equity$10,292,000
JULPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - JulyPGIM5/8/24Equity$1,012,357
PBJLPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - JulyPGIM5/8/24Equity$1,011,289
AUGPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - AugustPGIM5/10/24Equity$1,012,817
PBAUPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - AugustPGIM5/10/24Equity$1,011,829
USOYDefiance Oil Enhanced Options Income ETFDefiance ETFs5/10/24Commodities$2,338,125
EIPIFT Energy Income Partners Enhanced Income ETFFirst Trust5/6/24Equity$974,151,831
AIFDTCW Artificial Intelligence ETFTCW5/6/24Equity$63,202,113
GRWTCW Compounders ETFTCW5/6/24Equity$189,472,825
NDOWAnydrus Advantage ETFAnydrus5/14/24Asset Allocation$34,339,800
PBSEPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - SeptemberPGIM5/15/24Equity$1,009,617
SEPPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - SeptemberPGIM5/15/24Equity$1,011,197
OCTPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - OctoberPGIM5/17/24Equity$2,268,925
PBOCPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - OctoberPGIM5/17/24Equity$1,006,669
LRGGMacquarie Focused Large Growth ETFMacquarie5/15/24Equity$5,133,660
ASMFVirtus Alphasimplex Managed Futures ETFVirtus5/16/24Alternatives$6,286,751
WEELPeerless Option Income Wheel ETFPeerless ETFs5/16/24Equity$3,002,535
JADEJPMorgan Active Developing Markets Equity ETFJPMAM5/17/24Equity$13,919,460
QMMYFT Vest Nasdaq-100 Moderate Buffer ETF - MayFT Vest5/20/24Equity$93,837,040
XMAY
FT Vest U.S. Equity Enhance & Moderate Buffer ETF - May
FT Vest5/20/24Equity$11,948,060
NOVPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - NovemberPGIM5/22/24Equity$1,004,857
PBNVPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - NovemberPGIM5/22/24Equity$1,004,457
DECPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - DecemberPGIM5/24/24Equity$4,289,091
PBDEPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - DecemberPGIM5/24/24Equity$1,007,781
OZEM
Roundhill GLP-1 & Weight Loss ETF
Roundhill5/21/24Equity$22,306,766
GENMGenter Capital Municipal Quality Intermediate ETFGenter Capital Management5/22/24Fixed Income$911,700
GENTGenter Capital Taxable Quality Intermediate ETFGenter Capital Management5/22/24Fixed Income$3,937,011
OCFSOtter Creek Focus Strategy ETFOtter Creek5/20/24Equity$2,292,882
GDXYYieldMax Gold Miners Option Income Strategy ETFYieldMax5/21/24Equity$5,934,500
RSSY
Return Stacked U.S. Stocks & Futures Yield ETF
Return Stacked5/29/24Asset Allocation$115,306,330
MFUTCambria Chesapeake Pure Trend ETFCambria5/29/24Asset Allocation$10,725,000
BUFSFT Vest Laddered Small Cap Moderate Buffer ETFFT Vest5/30/24Equity$2,971,720
SECRIQ MacKay Securitzed Income ETFIndexIQ5/31/24Fixed Income$25,691,886
URAXDefiance Daily Target 2x Long Uranium ETFDefiance ETFs5/28/24Equity$871,890
RTRERareview Total Return Bond ETFRareview Funds6/3/24Fixed Income$15,481,400
JUNPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - JunePGIM6/3/24Equity$6,563,407
PBJNPGIM US LARGE-CAP BUFFER 20 ETF - JUNEPGIM6/3/24Equity$3,785,593
KJUNInnovator U.S. Small Cap Power Buffer ETF - JuneInnovator6/3/24Equity$3,131,413
NJUNInnovator Growth-100 Power Buffer ETF - JuneInnovator6/3/24Equity$12,702,250
JNEUAllianzIM U.S. Equity Buffer15 Uncapped June ETFAllianz Investment Management6/3/24Equity$7,576,290
ETHU2x Ether ETFVolatility Shares6/4/24Currency$19,126,800
AIPIREX AI Equity Premium Income ETFREX Shares6/4/24Equity$1,308,810
BGROBlackRock Large Cap Growth ETFiShares6/5/24Equity$5,204,125
METUDirexion Daily META Bull 2X SharesDirexion Shares6/5/24Equity$2,663,877
METDDirexion Daily META Bear 1X SharesDirexion Shares6/5/24Equity$2,418,454
CPNJCalamos Nasdaq - 100 Structured Alt Protection ETF -JuneCalamos6/3/24Equity$46,371,024
SIXDAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap 6 Month Buffer10 Jun/Dec ETFAllianz Investment Management6/3/24Equity$111,377,693
IJUNInnovator International Developed Power Buffer ETF- JuneInnovator6/3/24Equity$9,453,750
Total - 59 New ETFs
 
Total$2,322,278,323

Source: Factset as of 3/15/2024

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