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Q&A with RBB Fund


Published
May 10, 2024
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Steven Plump

CEO/President, RBB Fund

This week we sit down with Steven Plump at RBB Fund to discuss the company’s support of the active ETF market.


RBB Fund is the oldest and among the largest Series Trust providers in the US. The firm provides asset managers with a turnkey solution as they look to enter the ETF market. For those that are unaware, what specific services do you provide asset managers?

RBB is an open-architecture, cost-sharing platform, independent from any bank sponsor or service provider - unlike any within the industry. We negotiate with and oversee the various service providers on behalf of our clients, including but not limited to administration, custody, legal, insurance and fund compliance. Additionally, we will navigate our clients’ ETFs to market, quarterbacking the project to ensure a timely and easy launch process.

Over the last few years, active ETFs have become an area of growth for the ETF industry. Based on your role and client conversations, what have the catalysts been and what needs to happen for the industry to continue to grow?

The acceptance of active ETFs within the marketplace continues to be embraced by both asset managers as well as allocators utilizing them. The biggest catalyst for this has been the tax-efficiency of the ETF structure. This year has seen ETFs takeover Mutual Funds in asset allocation models for the first time ever, and we are starting to see broker-dealers rolling out active ETF recommended lists.

It’s interesting to note that the mutual fund is celebrating its 100th birthday this year. However, it wasn’t until the 1980s (nearly 60 years into its lifespan) that it was broadly embraced by investors. We believe we are still in the early innings for active ETFs and that investor acceptance will accelerate much quicker than what we witnessed with mutual funds.

RBB Fund has supported several actively managed asset managers launch new ETF businesses. What, if any, additional considerations should a firm be aware of as they work through market entry as an active manager?

We believe the number one factor in a successful ETF launch is AUM and seed capital. FUSE Research recently published a report showing that there is a high correlation between the initial/early AUM growth and success. It’s crucial to have a sales, marketing, and public relations plan and to dedicate the appropriate resources. With over 3,000 ETFs now in existence, issuers need to craft a message that stands out.

It should be noted that one-size does not fit all; each strategy is different, and a plan should be customized accordingly. It is also important to note that many large distributors will require a minimum track record and AUM level before they will even consider adding a new product.

A trend that we continue to see is the conversions of a mutual fund and/or SMA accounts into ETFs. What do you believe is driving this trend and how can RBB Fund assist in these conversions?

Quickly getting to $100 million is critical to the long-term success of a new ETF and opens the door for RIAs or institutions to make larger allocations. Converting a mutual fund or SMAs enables firms to achieve scale on day one - a significant hurdle when looking at successful ETFs within the marketplace.

RBB has experience in converting mutual funds as well as SMAs under section 351 of the IRS code, and in what might appear to be an overwhelming process, our team can make this simple because we know what to do. We see this trend continuing. We have also observed that many large RIAs are looking to convert part of their SMA business to their own ETFs, creating operational efficiencies and potentially offering their strategy in a lower priced and more tax efficient structure.

Lastly, what guidance would you provide sponsors as they consider expanding their product offer to include actively managed ETFs?

DO IT! ETFs are a superior structure for taxable clients. Get educated and learn as much as you can. Collectively, people within the industry are very helpful. There are many great ETF conferences and working groups to learn from - starting with the team at the NYSE! Take advantage of them and make sure to learn about their ETF education programs---ETF Central & the Certified ETF Advisor (CETF ®) designation. Think carefully about product design and whether it makes sense to offer the same strategy in a mutual fund and ETF or to differentiate your offering. Early on you should talk to potential key distribution partners so you understand how they view actively managed ETFs. Active ETFs are here to stay, and we expect to see substantial AUM growth in the coming years.

Active ETF Stat Pack


Firms
# of Issuers285
# of New Issuers 202424
ProductsAssets
# of ETFs1,404AUM ($B)$623.69
# of New Launches 20241243 Yr AUM CAGR42%
Avg. ER0.43%5 Yr AUM CAGR51%
Cash FlowTrading
YTD Cash Flow ($B)$85.57YTD ADV (Shares)213,724,191
3 Yr Cash Flow$339.46YTD ADV ($)$6.58 B
5 Yr Cash Flow$463.23YTD Avg. Spread (bps)*24.93

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 4/30/2024

*Simple average

Active, Semi-Transparent ETFs


TickerInceptionNameAUMYTD Flows30 Day Median Spread (bps)ADV (shares)StructureLMMExpense Ratio
VNSE9/17/20Natixis Vaughan Nelson Select ETF$32,718,291-$368,47414.772,466NYSE AMSCitadel0.80%
VNMC9/17/20Natixis Vaughan Nelson Mid Cap ETF$4,229,303$367,70819.24265NYSE AMSCitadel0.85%
ESGA7/15/20American Century Sustainable Equity ETF$180,890,392-$9,218,12312.708,607NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
MID.ETF7/15/20American Century Mid Cap Growth Impact ETF$65,226,684$3,539,12711.914,570NYSE AMSCitadel0.45%
ESGY7/1/21American Century Sustainable Growth ETF$14,829,510$945,22811.161,396NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
NDVG8/5/21Nuveen Dividend Growth ETF$14,132,776$975,0518.273,349NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
NSCS8/5/21Nuveen Small Cap Select ETF$6,710,236$010.48123NYSE AMSCitadel0.86%
NWLG8/5/21Nuveen Winslow Large-Cap Growth ESG ETF$7,215,100$09.00358NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
SAEF11/16/21Schwab Ariel ESG ETF$21,367,500$1,729,85033.902,822NYSE AMSFlow Traders0.59%
IWLG6/23/22IQ Winslow Large Cap Growth ETF$27,641,400$1,607,01022.29592NYSE AMSCitadel0.60%
IWFG6/23/22IQ Winslow Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$8,967,640$391,77022.02170NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
TSME10/5/22Thrivent Small-Mid Cap ESG ETF$151,400,649-$18,220,2308.5662,288NYSE AMSRBC0.65%
JPSV3/8/23JPMorgan Active Small Cap Value ETF$13,352,500-$1,091,3007.051,317NYSE AMSCitadel0.74%
LSGR6/29/23Natixis Loomis Sayles Focused Growth ETF$139,027,058$135,404,6869.6652,043NYSE AMSCitadel0.59%
SGLC3/31/23SGI U.S. Large Cap Core ETF$77,015,313-$34,132,07713.6724,770NYSE AMSGTS0.85%
FDG4/2/20American Century Focused Dynamic Growth ETF$200,880,933-$8,331,1848.9211,162NYSE AMSCitadel0.45%
FLV4/2/20American Century Focused Large Cap Value ETF$206,996,796-$13,858,7399.648,915NYSE AMSCitadel0.42%
FBCG6/4/20Fidelity Blue Chip Growth ETF$1,427,975,014$261,339,3986.42349,101Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FBCV6/4/20Fidelity Blue Chip Value ETF$125,687,585$834,69618.7915,337Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FFLC6/4/20Fidelity New Millennium ETF$273,837,683$74,161,87414.7657,402Fidelity ProxyGTS0.38%
FFLG2/4/21Fidelity Growth Opportunities ETF$285,251,260$22,025,06622.3162,493Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.38%
FMAG2/4/21Fidelity Magellan ETF$91,136,877$29,274,3757.8639,137Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FPRO2/4/21Fidelity Real Estate Investment ETF$11,331,760-$1,515,08913.852,658Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
FFSM2/4/21Fidelity Small/Mid-Cap Opportunities ETF$64,223,790$17,986,3548.3019,272Fidelity ProxyRBC0.43%
FSST6/17/21Fidelity Sustainability U.S. Equity ETF$12,841,532$604,8287.652,224Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FDWM6/17/21Fidelity Women's Leadership ETF$4,327,892$531,04212.851,580Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
TCHP8/5/20T. Rowe Price Blue Chip Growth ETF$548,000,698$24,815,2359.2688,522T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.57%
TDVG8/5/20T. Rowe Price Dividend Growth ETF$401,300,795$33,718,6426.7753,266T Rowe ProxyRBC0.50%
TEQI8/5/20T. Rowe Price Equity Income ETF$161,748,765$12,827,26810.3413,769T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.54%
TGRW8/5/20T. Rowe Price Growth Stock ETF$72,882,067$7,324,5656.849,611T Rowe ProxyRBC0.52%
TSPA6/8/21T. Rowe Price U.S. Equity Research ETF$182,908,592$78,194,16610.2441,306T Rowe ProxyRBC0.34%
IVRA12/22/20Invesco Real Assets ESG ETF$4,917,974$1,787,74047.993,057Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
LOPP2/1/21
Gabelli Love Our Planet & People ETF
$11,990,820$030.76418ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
GGRW2/16/21Gabelli Growth Innovators ETF$4,209,880$334,10031.623,970ActiveSharesGTS0.90%
GAST1/5/22Gabelli Asset ETF$4,832,650$031.3732ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
GABF5/11/22Gabelli Financial Services Opportunities ETF$13,492,420$3,217,98522.033,740ActiveSharesGTS0.04%
GCAD1/3/23
Gabelli Commercial Aerospace & Defense ETF
$5,320,175$577,57027.35685ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
FRTY3/1/21Alger Mid Cap 40 ETF$33,273,250$979,23862.919,109ActiveSharesVirtu1.19%
ATFV5/4/21Alger 35 ETF$16,244,988$1,547,15036.355,672ActiveSharesVirtu1.83%
AWEG3/7/23Alger Weatherbie Enduring Growth ETF$4,518,200$064.2364ActiveSharesVirtu1.25%
CLIA5/9/23Veridien Climate Action ETF$23,578,187$567,11758.822,777ActiveSharesGTS0.85%
REIT2/26/21ALPS Active REIT ETF$23,571,049$5,578,60014.876,878Blue TractorGTS0.68%
STNC3/16/21Hennessy Stance ESG Large Cap ETF$114,383,947$52,192,24945.427,254Blue TractorGTS0.85%
DYTA3/30/23SGI Dynamic Tactical ETF$57,805,848-$53,750,26518.4636,801Blue TractorGTS1.04%
PFUT5/26/21Putnam Sustainable Future ETF$241,234,518$15,354,98815.5631,339Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.64%
PLDR5/26/21Putnam Sustainable Leaders ETF$486,375,830$15,741,4519.9056,265Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
PGRO5/26/21Putnam Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$57,113,633$6,430,8949.3111,941Fidelity ProxyRBC0.56%
PVAL5/26/21Putnam Focused Large Cap Value ETF$494,256,112$200,643,9037.24135,115Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.56%
HFGO11/9/21Hartford Large Cap Growth ETF$113,739,795-$418,14816.351,380Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.60%
SEMI3/30/22Columbia Seligman Semiconductor and Technology ETF$37,306,244$2,405,90026.445,525Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.75%
CAPE4/5/22DoubleLine Shiller CAPE U.S. Equities ETF$375,298,560-$87,154,40013.4743,799ActiveSharesCitadel0.65%
FMCX4/25/22FMC Excelsior Focus Equity ETF$89,741,400$717,60022.11636ActiveSharesGTS0.70%
BYRE5/19/22Principal Real Estate Active Opportunities ETF$8,822,622$466,39222.10881Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.65%
JHAC11/2/23John Hancock Fundamental All Cap Core ETF$3,107,507$547,5389.191,063Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.72%
 
Total/Average$7,061,191,997$789,630,32519.131,309,294
 
0.62%

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 4/30/2024

*Simple average

Recent Active ETF Launches


TickerNameIssuerLaunch DateAsset ClassAUM
PBAPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - AprilPGIM4/1/24Equity$4,928,025
APRPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - AprilPGIM4/1/24Equity$3,920,025
AAPRInnovator Equity Defined Protection ETF - 2 Yr to April 2026Innovator4/1/24Equity$42,595,000
HAPRInnovator Premium Income 9 Buffer ETF - AprilInnovator4/1/24Equity$1,235,965
LAPRInnovator Premium Income 15 Buffer ETF - AprilInnovator4/1/24Fixed Income$2,481,270
ARLUAllianzIM U.S. Equity Buffer15 Uncapped Apr ETFAllianz Investment Management4/1/24Equity$16,409,250
FLAOAllianzIM U.S. Equity 6 Month Floor5 Apr/Oct ETFAllianz Investment Management4/1/24Equity$68,376,000
EHLSEven Herd Long Short ETFEven Herd4/2/24Alternatives$43,638,424
KOOLNorth Shore Equity Rotation ETFSplit Rock4/2/24Equity$32,383,341
RVERTrenchless Fund ETFRiver14/3/24Equity$44,464,380
CNEQAlger Concentrated Equity ETFAlger4/5/24Equity$4,287,848
ALAI
Alger AI Enablers & Adopters ETF
Alger4/5/24Equity$4,034,886
RAYJRayliant SMDAM Japan Equity ETFRayliant Asset Management4/5/24Equity$29,620,990
SAMMStrategas Macro Momentum ETFStrategas4/5/24Equity$6,807,005
STBFPerformance Trust Short Term Bond ETFPerformance Trust4/9/24Fixed Income$8,976,600
MDSTWestwood Salient Enhanced Midstream Income ETFWestwood4/9/24Equity$19,721,740
OGSPObra High Grade Structured Products ETFObra4/10/24Fixed Income$25,702,400
OOSPObra Opportunistic Structured Products ETFObra4/10/24Fixed Income$15,910,600
FBUFFidelity Dynamic Buffered Equity ETFFidelity4/11/24Equity$5,481,360
FHEQFidelity Hedged Equity ETFFidelity4/11/24Equity$5,451,750
FYEEFidelity Yield Enhanced Equity ETFFidelity4/11/24Equity$5,474,340
NEWZStockSnips AI-Powered Sentiment US All Cap ETFStockSnips4/12/24Equity$6,171,250
CCSBCarbon Collective Short Duration Green Bond ETFCarbon Collective4/12/24Fixed Income$10,045,000
XAPR
FT Vest U.S. Equity Enhance & Moderate Buffer ETF - April
FT Vest4/22/24Equity$7,497,560
QCAPFT Vest Nasdaq-100 Conservative Buffer ETF - AprilFT Vest4/22/24Equity$10,084,990
YBITYieldMax Bitcoin Option Income Strategy ETFYieldMax4/23/24Currency$4,637,500
PSTRPeakshares Sector Rotation ETFPeakshares4/29/24Equity$246,851
 
Total - 27 New ETFsTotal$430,584,349

Source: Factset as of 3/15/2024

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