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Q&A with Matthews Asia


Published
December 14, 2022
Michael Barrer
Michael Barrer

Head of ETF Capital Markets, Matthews Asia

This week we sit down with Michael Barrer at Matthews Asia to discuss their entry into the active ETF market.


Matthews Asia is known for having an unwavering focus on investment opportunities within Asia and for providing active investment solutions for investors. The firm entered the ETF market earlier this year with the launch of three active equity ETFs (NYSE Arca listed, MEM, MINV, and MCH). What led to the decision to launch ETFs and what opportunities do you see in the active ETF market today?

When the ETF Rule was adopted at the end of 2019, it opened the door and afforded the flexibility for bottom-up active managers to offer long-standing mutual fund strategies in the ETF wrapper. There is no denying the growth of ETFs over the past two decades but ultimately our goal is to provide investors a choice in how they gain exposure to the important growth regions of emerging markets, Asia and China through actively managed portfolios that we believe can benefit from our stock-picking heritage.

The early feedback from our investors has been encouraging as they are excited about the option for ETFs at Matthews Asia. We believe it’s still early days for active ETFs with investor adoption and new product development set to accelerate over the coming years. Our long-term plan is to build a robust active ETF suite that delivers increased investment choices for investors.

As an asset manager focused on providing solutions for Asia, what benefits and/or nuances come with operating an active ETF product line-up compared to other investment wrappers or exposures?

There is certainly an expertise required for managing active strategies in emerging markets and Asia, both in investment acumen and market structure. With almost 40 investment professionals, we have deep expertise backed by over 30 years of active investment experience in these markets, which has helped make us a leader in providing active exposures in these geographies. Our active ETF wrapper now gives investors access to several of our strategies in a vehicle that provides full transparency, intraday liquidity, increased tax-efficiency, and at a lower expense ratio.

What are the key considerations for investors contemplating actively managed international equity ETFs?

Investors should first evaluate the manager of a strategy, their track record and expertise in the region. If the strategy is an allocation fit for an investor’s portfolio, then I would look at some of the nuances of the ETF, such as market exposure and tax efficiency. Our ETFs are approximately 50-60% more tax efficient as compared to their sister mutual funds, solely based on the weight of the portfolio of in-kind markets (Hong-Kong, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, etc). Finally, investors should look for managers who can help support them in understanding the active ETF structure and partner with them on ensuring they can identify the most efficient ways to trade these ETFs, which is a key focus of my role at Matthews.

Lastly, what guidance would you provide sponsors as they consider expanding their product offerings to include actively managed ETFs?

I would make sure they are partnering with custodians, market makers and exchanges who have experience in developing and running these new vehicles. The NYSE has been a tremendous partner to Matthews Asia not only in the pre-launch development phase but also the post-launch market quality and marketing of our first three active ETFs. The bottom line is active ETFs do not change the core of an active manager trying to achieve alpha over the benchmark but allows them to offer their expertise in a more technologically advanced investment vehicle.

Active ETF Stat Pack

Firms
# of Issuers192
# of New Issuers 202245
ProductsAssets
# of ETFs945AUM ($B)$341.79
# of New Launches 20222283 Yr AUM CAGR53%
Avg. ER0.44%5 Yr AUM CAGR52%
Cash FlowTrading
YTD Cash Flow ($B)$78.41YTD ADV (Shares) 134,749,789
3 Yr Cash Flow$230.66YTD ADV ($)$5.27 B
5 Yr Cash Flow$286.13YTD Avg. Spread (bps)*32.85

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 12/9/2022

*Simple average

Active, Semi-Transparent Update

TickerInceptionNameAUMYTD Cash Flow30-Day Med. Spread (bps)ADV (shares)StructureLMMExpense Ratio
EQOP09/17/2020Natixis U.S. Equity Opportunities ETF$8,593,985$613,14314.54837NYSE AMSCitadel0.85%
VNSE09/17/2020Natixis Vaughan Nelson Select ETF$10,689,155$6,717,94212.121,805NYSE AMSCitadel0.80%
VNMC09/17/2020Natixis Vaughan Nelson Mid Cap ETF$7,562,927$(292,909)14.2525NYSE AMSCitadel0.85%
ESGA07/15/2020American Century Sustainable Equity ETF$110,397,456$(27,343,763)12.3311,209NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
MID07/15/2020American Century Mid Cap Growth Impact ETF$27,209,188$8,257,43510.854,670NYSE AMSCitadel0.45%
ESGY07/01/2021American Century Sustainable Growth ETF$6,401,651$1,144,3287.78353NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
NDVG08/05/2021Nuveen Dividend Growth ETF$7,851,246$1,694,5138.683,593NYSE AMSCitadel0.64%
NSCS08/05/2021Nuveen Small Cap Select ETF$5,632,796$24,16611.54410NYSE AMSCitadel0.85%
NWLG08/05/2021Nuveen Winslow Large-Cap Growth ESG ETF$4,581,624$33,4099.14,858NYSE AMSCitadel0.64%
NUGO09/28/2021Nuveen Growth Opportunities ETF$2,161,185,792$(153,058,499)8.45285,744NYSE AMSCitadel0.55%
SAEF11/16/2021Schwab Ariel ESG ETF$12,787,500$6,758,60045.393,617NYSE AMSFlow Traders0.59%
IWLG06/23/2022IQ Winslow Large Cap Growth ETF$14,134,570$8,692,51023.066,038NYSE AMSCitadel0.60%
IWFG06/23/2022IQ Winslow Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$6,597,600$1,600,68022.732,750NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
TSME10/05/2022Thrivent Small-Mid Cap ESG ETF$56,462,047$52,761,76910.6655,198NYSE AMSRBC0.65%
FDG04/02/2020American Century Focused Dynamic Growth ETF$124,730,610$(13,528,979)11.822,363ActiveSharesCitadel0.45%
FLV04/02/2020American Century Focused Large Cap Value ETF$225,910,160$(11,122,639)10.758,684ActiveSharesCitadel0.42%
FBCG06/04/2020Fidelity Blue Chip Growth ETF$411,292,453$77,717,42021.03134,157Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FBCV06/04/2020Fidelity Blue Chip Value ETF$139,836,377$39,512,70430.2927,533Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FMIL06/04/2020Fidelity New Millennium ETF$84,500,534$20,200,75934.4314,543Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FGRO02/04/2021Fidelity Growth Opportunities ETF$57,400,868$23,267,66414.03156,546Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
FMAG02/04/2021Fidelity Magellan ETF$43,993,320$1,176,38012.4815,132Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FPRO02/04/2021Fidelity Real Estate Investment ETF$17,250,564$(297,173)11.415,244Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
FSMO02/04/2021Fidelity Small/Mid-Cap Opportunities ETF$27,817,686$512,3219.597,022Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FSST06/17/2021Fidelity Sustainability U.S. Equity ETF$7,042,598$2,335,52312.791,368Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FDWM06/17/2021Fidelity Women's Leadership ETF$2,622,081$23514.59476Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
TCHP08/05/2020T. Rowe Price Blue Chip Growth ETF$255,812,042$94,134,82910.88124,479T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.57%
TDVG08/05/2020T. Rowe Price Dividend Growth ETF$273,375,900$154,674,22610.3238,962T Rowe ProxyRBC0.50%
TEQI08/05/2020T. Rowe Price Equity Income ETF$107,421,853$53,779,1379.8618,665T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.54%
TGRW08/05/2020T. Rowe Price Growth Stock ETF$38,106,203$7,240,42011.5913,254T Rowe ProxyRBC0.52%
TSPA06/08/2021T. Rowe Price U.S. Equity Research ETF$23,801,423$4,604,81111.132,630T Rowe ProxyRBC0.52%
IVDG12/22/2020Invesco Focused Discovery Growth ETF$720,590$(207,050)10.74329Invesco ModelCitadel0.59%
IVSG12/22/2020Invesco Select Growth ETF$876,250$(95,330)10.83340Invesco ModelCitadel0.48%
IVLC12/22/2020Invesco US Large Cap Core ESG ETF$5,812,032$(24,960)16.341,390Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.48%
IVRA12/22/2020Invesco Real Assets ESG ETF$3,128,244$1,085,24032.431,506Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
LOPP02/01/2021Gabelli Love Our Planet & People ETF$13,177,890$3,319,19077.85624ActiveSharesGTS0.90%
GGRW02/16/2021Gabelli Growth Innovators ETF$2,210,600$(252,075)26.45444ActiveSharesGTS0.90%
GAST01/05/2022Gabelli Asset ETF$4,462,920$244,38047.37105ActiveSharesGTS0.90%
GABF05/11/2022Gabelli Financial Services Opportunities ETF$5,438,580$261,40073.86247ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
FRTY03/01/2021Alger Mid Cap 40 ETF$29,997,000$7,583,87539.8318,179ActiveSharesVirtu0.60%
ATFV05/04/2021Alger 35 ETF$9,136,875$268,25042.091,512ActiveSharesVirtu0.55%
REIT02/26/2021ALPS Active REIT ETF$17,689,149$(4,502,900)27.584,880Blue TractorGTS0.68%
STNC03/16/2021Stance Equity ESG Large Cap Core ETF$44,673,460$8,637,66019.882,808Blue TractorGTS0.85%
PFUT05/26/2021Putnam Sustainable Future ETF$7,051,409$927,05335.921,839Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.64%
PLDR05/26/2021Putnam Sustainable Leaders ETF$5,551,914$(551,530)10.86281Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
PGRO05/26/2021Putnam Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$10,038,024$2,792,02310.461,879Fidelity ProxyRBC0.55%
PVAL05/26/2021Putnam Focused Large Cap Value ETF$133,684,693$109,406,30830.8225,767Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.55%
HFGO11/09/2021Hartford Large Cap Growth ETF$74,764,085$78,501,75129.46108,527Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
SEMI03/30/2022Columbia Seligman Semiconductor and Technology ETF$15,110,939$10,703,57536.068,504Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.75%
CAPE04/05/2022DoubleLine Shiller CAPE U.S. Equities ETF$215,736,640$216,526,80015.99100,695ActiveSharesCitadel0.65%
FMCX04/25/2022FMC Excelsior Focus Equity ETF$72,618,050$1,977,50047.721,134ActiveSharesGTS0.70%
BYRE05/19/2022Principal Real Estate Active Opportunities ETF$5,098,369$5,497,34824.861,612Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.65%
Total/Average$4,957,979,922$803,909,47121.881,255,2690.61%

Source: FactSet & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 8/5/2022

*Simple average

November MTD Active ETF Launches

TickerNameIssuerLaunch DateAsset ClassAUM
JUCYAptus Enhanced Yield ETFAptus Holdings LLC11/01/2022Fixed Income$176,749,000
NVBTAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap Buffer10 Nov ETFAllianz11/01/2022Equity$15,921,438
NVBWAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap Buffer20 Nov ETFAllianz11/01/2022Equity$33,646,785
DFSUDimensional US Sustainability Core 1 ETFDimensional Holdings11/02/2022Equity$113,785,610
DFSIDimensional International Sustainability Core 1 ETFDimensional Holdings11/02/2022Equity$92,919,420
DFSEDimensional Emerging Markets Sustainability Core 1 ETFDimensional Holdings11/02/2022Equity$86,112,900
BKGIBNY Mellon Global Infrastructure Income ETFThe Bank of New York Mellon Corp.11/03/2022Equity$10,818,587
INCVanEck Dynamic High Income ETFVanEck11/03/2022Asset Allocation$522,454
EIPXFT Energy Income Partners Strategy ETFFirst Trust11/03/2022Equity$90,206,039
RVRBReverb ETFPenserra Capital Management LLC11/04/2022Equity$2,041,040
ADPVAdaptiv Select ETFClient First Investment Management LLC11/04/2022Equity$14,062,720
CARYAngel Oak Income ETFAngel Oak Capital Advisors, LLC11/08/2022Fixed Income$22,187,000
SFLRInnovator Equity Managed Floor ETFInnovator11/09/2022Equity$7,004,280
TUASimplify Short Term Treasury Futures Strategy ETFSimplify Asset Management Inc.11/15/2022Fixed Income$21,962,525
FDVFederated Hermes U.S. Strategic Dividend ETFFederated Hermes, Inc.11/16/2022Equity$8,269,983
DFSBDimensional Global Sustainability Fixed Income ETFDimensional Holdings11/16/2022Fixed Income$41,236,160
HIDEAlpha Architect High Inflation & Deflation ETFAlpha Architect11/17/2022Asset Allocation$3,715,500
TFLRT. Rowe Price Floating Rate ETFT. Rowe Price Group, Inc.11/17/2022Fixed Income$21,247,875
IGTRInnovator Gradient Tactical Rotation Strategy ETFInnovator11/17/2022Equity$325,199,500
MEDIHarbor Health Care ETFHarbor11/17/2022Equity$2,527,438
OARKYieldMax Innovation Option Income Strategy ETFToroso Investments11/23/2022Equity$492,125
TSLYYieldMax TSLA Option Income Strategy ETFToroso Investments11/23/2022Equity$496,873
PPMeet Kevin Pricing Power ETFToroso Investments11/29/2022Equity$7,405,913
FIAXNicholas Fixed Income Alternative ETFToroso Investments11/30/2022Alternatives$8,000,000
DECTAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap Buffer10 Dec ETFAllianz12/01/2022Equity$17,053,470
DECWAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap Buffer20 Dec ETFAllianz12/01/2022Equity$59,733,085
INTLMain International ETFMain Management12/02/2022Equity$31,322,442
SECDSenior Secured Credit Opportunities ETFToroso Investments12/06/2022Fixed Income$497,625
QVOYQ3 All-Season Active Rotation ETFQ3 Asset Management Corp.12/07/2022Asset Allocation$11,761,186
DFLVDimensional US Large Cap Value ETFDimensional Holdings12/07/2022Equity$8,612,695
DFGRDimensional Global Real Estate ETFDimensional Holdings12/07/2022Equity$5,000,060
HIYSInvesco High Yield Select ETFInvesco12/09/2022Fixed Income$10,031,785
ICLOInvesco AAA CLO Floating Rate Note ETFInvesco12/09/2022Fixed Income$30,102,025
IMSIInvesco Municipal Strategic Income ETFInvesco12/09/2022Fixed Income$30,138,050
ISDBInvesco Short Duration Bond ETFInvesco12/09/2022Fixed Income$10,003,345
RNWZTrueShares Eagle Global Renewable Energy Income ETFTrueMark Group12/09/2022Equity$619,073
Total - 36 New ETFs$1,321,406,004

Source: Factset as of 12/9/2022

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