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Q&A with T. Rowe Price

June 7, 2021

Scott Livingston

Head of Global Strategy & Capital Markets, T. Rowe Price

This week we sit down with Scott Livingston at T. Rowe Price to discuss entry into the ETF market and gain his perspectives on the broader active ETF landscape

T. Rowe Price has a long-standing track record as an active asset manager across mutual funds. What led to the decision to enter the active ETF market in late 2020?

We have long realized that ETFs were growing in popularity due to their tax efficiency, low-cost structure, and convenience. Over the last several years, we have expanded our vehicle offerings to respond to changing client preferences so that we can continue to meet investors where they are. Our focus has remained on improving investment outcomes for our clients and then packaging our capabilities in various ways so that investors can choose what works best for them.

What slowed our entry into the ETF market, however, was the requirement that an issuer fully disclose its holdings each day as a condition for regulatory approval. The thought was that ETF market makers needed daily holdings disclosure to facilitate orderly markets. We are certainly in favor of orderly markets, but the downside of full daily disclosure for a large active manager like T. Rowe Price is that this information can be used to front-run our trading strategies, which could increase our transaction costs and ultimately hurt our clients’ performance. So, we worked with market makers and designed a model that would provide the information they need to facilitate efficient markets while still protecting our intellectual property (IP). After several years of constructive dialogue with the SEC, we gained approval to launch our ETFs in a format that would deliver the benefits of the ETF vehicle and T. Rowe Price active management to our clients, while protecting the returns that we work so hard to generate for them.

Your approach to market entry included the launch of equity ETFs that are similar to legacy mutual funds. What was the rationale for this approach and what additional considerations did this bring?

Yes, we wanted to bring forward some of our well-known, longstanding investment strategies as ETFs. Our first four ETFs were constructed similarly to flagship strategies with large retail followings run by well-tenured portfolio managers with impressive performance track records. These strategies were also frequently requested in conversations we had with our clients about our entry into the ETF space. Over time, we are building a robust suite of ETF offerings across regions and asset classes. While we continue to evaluate other existing investment strategies that would be appealing as ETFs, we are also contemplating new strategies designed for the ETF user.

Finally, we are appreciative of the continued partnership with the SEC as we design ETF processes that protect the IP of active investment strategies. While current approvals largely allow for domestic equity strategies, we are hoping in time to expand the allowable securities list so that investors can access more investment strategies in the active ETF wrapper.

The T. Rowe suite of ETFs recently surpassed $275 million in assets. What are your early observations on the trading and adoption of the products? What plans and hurdles do you see on the horizon?

Results since our ETF launch have been encouraging and we are excited by the traction we are seeing in our products. Our spreads have been the tightest in the industry among the new active ETF models. Spreads are an important data point to monitor because they not only reflect the confidence a market maker has in the ETF process, but they are also essentially a part of the cost of ownership for an investor. Our liquidity providers have done a great job supporting our ETFs in market and we, in turn, have continued to build tools and surveillance to ensure our investors can transact at appropriate levels.

We’ve seen broad acceptance of our ETFs, not only from existing clients, but also from investors new to T. Rowe Price. Interest has been particularly strong among advisors, independents, and the large trading platforms.

For some of our other clients, a certain amount of time in market is required, but the trading performance we have exhibited thus far as well as our investment performance track record should position us well when these firms are ready. We know it is still early in our ETF journey, but we are committed to building on our tradition of innovation for the benefit of our clients.

What guidance would you provide sponsors as they consider expanding their product offer to include actively managed ETFs (either fully transparent or semi-transparent)?

ETFs live outside the walls of the issuer, which is different than other investment vehicles. As an issuer, you want to build resilient products that require an ecosystem of support, including a listing exchange. Ideally, you want a listing exchange that understands your products, will foster an environment of liquidity and will assist with regulatory and other matters as you build your business. You will want dedicated liquidity partners that will help you grow from launch to fully scaled products. A custodian/administrator is also important, particularly for ETF operational functions that will be new to an issuer.

Equally important to the external ecosystem is building effective internal processes, which requires patience, conviction, collaboration, and coordination. We believed it was important to develop a focused ETF strategy within the firm, though we recognized it would take a lot of work. Building our business not only benefits our existing client base but also provides a future path of growth for our firm.

Active ETF Stat Pack

Firms
# of Issuers 116
# of New Issuers 2021 23
Products Assets
# of ETFs 573 AUM ($B) $220.91
# of New Launches 2021 107 3 Yr AUM CAGR 160%
Avg. ER 0.55% 5 Yr AUM CAGR 57%
Cash Flow Trading
YTD Cash Flow ($B) $50.80 YTD ADV (Shares) 65,371,867
3 Yr Cash Flow $153.90 YTD ADV ($) $4.13B
5 Yr Cash Flow $184.10 YTD Avg. Spread (bps)* 29.41

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 5/28/2021
*Simple average

Active, Semi-Transparent Update

Ticker

Inception

Name

AUM

YTD Cash Flow

Avg. Spread (bps)

ADV (shares)

Structure

LMM

Expense Ratio

EQOP 09/17/2020 Natixis U.S. Equity Opportunities ETF $13,984,506 $ - 15.12 59 NYSE AMS Citadel 0.90%
VNSE 09/17/2020 Natixis Vaughan Nelson Select ETF $6,628,968 ($338,859) 16.20 896 NYSE AMS Citadel 0.90%
VNMC 09/17/2020 Natixis Vaughan Nelson Mid Cap ETF $10,896,685 $1,586,361 14.50 1,826 NYSE AMS Citadel 0.85%
ESGA 07/15/2020 American Century Sustainable Equity ETF $145,726,210 $21,844,727 15.04 9,985 NYSE AMS Citadel 0.39%
MID 07/15/2020 American Century Mid Cap Growth Impact ETF $14,929,832 $7,645,379 15.04 9,985 NYSE AMS Citadel 0.45%
FDG 04/02/2020 American Century Focused Dynamic Growth ETF $214,573,254 ($5,271,859) 12.09 27,568 ActiveShares Citadel 0.45%
FLV 04/02/2020 American Century Focused Large Cap Value ETF $249,704,204 $55,351,019 14.33 10,525 ActiveShares Citadel 0.42%
CFCV 05/28/2020 ClearBridge Focus Value ETF $4,047,681 $352,073 18.44 150 ActiveShares GTS 0.50%
FBCG 06/04/2020 Fidelity Blue Chip Growth ETF $309,669,960 $100,824,643 14.9 183,429 Fidelity Proxy GTS 0.59%
FBCV 06/04/2020 Fidelity Blue Chip Value ETF $98,252,520 $43,513,410 14.33 53,488 Fidelity Proxy GTS 0.59%
FMIL 06/04/2020 Fidelity New Millennium ETF $62,940,375 $33,324,220 14.52 35,019 Fidelity Proxy GTS 0.59%
FGRO 02/04/2021 Fidelity Growth Opportunities ETF $26,007,100 $24,715,638 5.3 46,509 Fidelity Proxy Citadel 0.59%
FMAG 02/04/2021 Fidelity Magellan ETF $25,823,000 $22,908,260 14.71 37,926 Fidelity Proxy RBC 0.59%
FPRO 02/04/2021 Fidelity Real Estate Investment ETF $11,400,000 $8,508,800 4.61 13,998 Fidelity Proxy Citadel 0.59%
FSMO 02/04/2021 Fidelity Small/Mid-Cap Opportunities ETF $23,466,350 $20,172,785 13.62 26,816 Fidelity Proxy RBC 0.59%
TCHP 08/05/2020 T. Rowe Price Blue Chip Growth ETF $132,897,577 $63,287,622 9.17 44,658 T Rowe Proxy Virtu 0.57%
TDVG 08/05/2020 T. Rowe Price Dividend Growth ETF $64,769,319 $22,323,543 6.17 14,399 T Rowe Proxy RBC 0.50%
TEQI 08/05/2020 T. Rowe Price Equity Income ETF $47,773,779 $18,495,435 9.63 10,289 T Rowe Proxy Virtu 0.54%
TGRW 08/05/2020 T. Rowe Price Growth Stock ETF $37,728,819 $9,751,462 7.59 7,502 T Rowe Proxy RBC 0.52%
IVDG 12/22/2020 Invesco Focused Discovery Growth ETF $1,336,622 $120,580 16.61 1,537 Invesco Model Citadel 0.59%
IVSG 12/22/2020 Invesco Select Growth ETF $1,301,813 $ - 15.76 1,062 Invesco Model Citadel 0.48%
IVLC 12/22/2020 Invesco US Large Cap Core ESG ETF $$6,572,873 $5,298,630 15.49 4,856 Fidelity Proxy Citadel 0.48%
IVRA 12/22/2020 Invesco Real Assets ESG ETF $1,412,614 $ - 34.86 2,431 Fidelity Proxy Citadel 0.59%
LOPP 02/01/2021 Gabelli Love Our Planet & People ETF $10,007,095 $6,106,750 11.28 4,009 ActiveShares GTS 0.90%
GGRW 02/16/2021 Gabelli Growth Innovators ETF $3,511,800 $1,158,250 14.59 1,006 ActiveShares GTS 0.90%
FRTY 03/01/2021 Alger Mid Cap 40 ETF $24,530,375 $19,760,125 39.55 26,291 ActiveShares Virtu 0.60%
ATFV 05/04/2021 Alger 35 ETF $10,353,000 $9,888,375 41 27,796 ActiveShares Virtu 0.60%
REIT 02/26/2021 ALPS Active REIT ETF $14,232,455 $10,330,900 13.5 10,477 Blue Tractor GTS 0.68%
STNC 03/16/2021 Stance Equity ESG Large Cap Core ETF $33,285,330 $5,006,379 22.66 5,418 Blue Tractor GTS 0.85%
PFUT 05/26/2021 Putnam Sustainable Future ETF $606,955 - 15.87 45,175 Fidelity Proxy Virtu 0.64%
PLDR 05/26/2021 Putnam Sustainable Leaders ETF $400,515 - 11.6 46,332 Fidelity Proxy RBC 0.59%
PGRO 05/26/2021 Putnam Focused Large Cap Growth ETF $2,510,750 - 11.13 51,280 Fidelity Proxy RBC 0.55%
PVAL 05/26/2021 Putnam Focused Large Cap Value ETF $506,758 - 16.07 45,567 Fidelity Proxy Virtu 0.55%

 

 

Total/Average

$1,601,436,095

$496,776,272

14.82

772,720

 

 

0.61%

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 5/28/2021
*Simple average

May Active ETF Launches

Ticker Name Issuer Launch Date Asset Class AUM
MAYZ TrueShares Structured Outcome (May) ETF TrueMark Investments 05/03/2021 Equity $7,406,850.00
ATFV Alger 35 ETF Alger Group Holdings LLC 05/04/2021 Equity $4,348,625.00
MBOX Freedom Day Dividend ETF Alpha Architect 05/05/2021 Equity $254,709.00
AGOX Adaptive Growth Opportunities ETF Cavalier16 05/10/2021 asset Allocation $147,933,528.36
SXQG 6 Meridian Quality Growth ETF Exchange Traded Concepts 05/11/2021 Equity $2,429,190.00
PFIX Simplify Interest Rate Hedge ETF Simplify Asset Management Inc. 05/11/2021 Alternatives $7,174,697.83
FMNY First Trust New York Municipal High Income ETF First Trust 05/13/2021 Fixed Income $15,008,440.03
SVOL Simplify Volatility Premium ETF Simplify Asset Management Inc. 05/13/2021 Alternatives $1,931,250.00
GLDB Strategy Shares Gold-Hedged Bond ETF Rational Capital LLC 05/18/2021 Fixed Income $1,911,000.00
LGBT LGBTQ + ESG100 ETF ProcureAM 05/18/2021 Equity $2,536,840.00
SOGU Short De-Spac ETF Tuttle Tactical Management, LLC 5/19/21 Equity $6,211,530.00
QQQA ProShares Nasdaq-100 Dorsey Wright Momentum ETF ProShares 5/19/21 Equity $4,209,770.00
NTSI WisdomTree International Efficient Core Fund WisdomTree Investments, Inc. 5/20/21 Asset Allocation $2,028,540.00
NTSE WisdomTree Emerging Markets Efficient Core Fund WisdomTree Investments, Inc. 5/20/21 Asset Allocation $2,060,255.00
PLRG Principal US Large-Cap Adaptive Multi-Factor ETF Principal 5/20/21 Equity $5,111,800.00
PLTL Principal US Small-Cap Adaptive Multi-Factor ETF Principal 5/20/21 Equity $6,441,900.77
FATT Fat Tail Risk ETF Tuttle Capital Management LLC 5/25/21 Asset Allocation $619,132.50
SPBC Simplify US Equity PLUS GBTC ETF Simplify Asset Management Inc. 5/25/21 Asset Allocation $15,533,462.35
FOMO FOMO ETF Tuttle Capital Management LLC 5/25/21 Asset Allocation $3,202,500.00
PLDR Putnam Sustainable Leaders ETF Putnam 5/26/21 Equity $400,515.20
PFUT Putnam Sustainable Future ETF Putnam 5/26/21 Equity $606,955.20
PVAL Putnam Focused Large Cap Value ETF Putnam 5/26/21 Equity $506,758.00
PPGRO Putnam Focused Large Cap Growth ETF Putnam 5/26/21 Equity $2,510,750.00
EPRE First Trust TCW ESG Premier Equity ETF First Trust 5/26/21 Equity $2,014,060.28
ILDR First Trust Innovation Leaders ETF First Trust 5/26/21 Equity $2,042,470.85
PXUS Principal International Adaptive Multi-Factor ETF Principal 5/27/21 Equity $2,500,000.00
PSY Defiance Next Gen Altered Experience ETF Defiance ETFs 5/28/21 Equity $2,653,000.00

Total

27 New Active ETFs

 

 

 

$319,570,107.75

Source: Factset as of 5/28/2021

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