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MAC Desk

2024 Q4 Earnings Preview

Setting the Stage

Straight from the trading floor

Michael Reinking, CFA
Sr. Market Strategist, NYSE

Top takeaways

  • Q4 S&P 500 EPS expected to be up 11.7% YoY, largest increase since Q4 2021
  • High level of negative pre-announcements
  • Revenues estimated to be up 4.7%, the 17th consecutive quarterly increase
  • Key topics - Economic/policy uncertainty, impact of higher rates/stronger USD, changing demand dynamics, capex spending and AI impact
  • Q3 Shareholder return programs were down 1.5% QoQ

What will investors be listening for on Conference Calls?

Broad Economy

  • Are there any other noticeable changes to consumer/customer behavior since the election?

Inflation/Margins

  • How will the pricing strategy change if tariffs are instituted?
  • How are you navigating the balance between previously announced price increases and the impact on volumes?
  • Have efficiency measures helped to preserve margins? Are there additional levers to pull?

Inventory/Logistics

  • Ahead of potential tariffs has there been a pull forward of demand?
  • Do you see the recent move higher in logistics costs as a persistent issue?

Labor

  • What are the company’s plans for headcount?
  • Has labor availability improved?
  • Are wage pressures easing?

Capital Allocation

  • Is the higher cost of capital impacting capex and shareholder return decisions?
  • Where is your IT budget focused?

Financials

  • What is the state of the consumer?
  • What are the expectations for capital market activity in 2025?
  • With the potential for an improved regulatory backdrop how will that impact the industry and the M&A environment?
  • How has the move higher in rates impacted your business and what is baked into your forecast?
  • Are there any signs that credit quality is deteriorating?

AI

  • Is there any evidence suggesting demand for AI related infrastructure products is easing?
  • What percentage of your capex/IT budget is being spent on AI related initiatives?
  • Can you provide examples of how the AI implementation has improved efficiency or productivity?


Setting the stage - A look back at 2024

By all accounts 2024 was a strong year for US equity markets with the S&P 500 ending up 23%, its second consecutive annual gain of >20%. The last time this happened was in the 1990’s and only the fourth time in history. Interestingly a topic that has been debated throughout last year was the similarity in the current environment to that time period with the technological revolution and a mid-cycle adjustment by the Federal Reserve the common threads.

During the year the US economy continued to outperform expectations driven by a mix of resilient consumer spending, AI related capital investment and growing fiscal deficits. Hiring cooled throughout the year but separations remain low. The unemployment rate moved up to 4.1% from 3.7% at the start of the year, but also remains low by historic standards. After a scare in Q1 inflation continued to moderate in 2024, though the last mile is proving to be difficult. The cumulative impact of higher inflation over the last couple of years and affordability in the US housing market is creating a bifurcation within income brackets as lower income consumers bear the brunt of the pain.

After holding policy rates steady for a little more than a year the Federal Reserve began its much-anticipated policy shift by cutting 50bps in September followed by two additional 25bps cuts in November and December. However, at the last meeting Chair Powell signaled that the pace of cuts going forward would slow as the economy continues to outperform expectations, inflation remains sticky and given the uncertainty related to the impact of Washington policy with the incoming administration.

By historic standards it was a year of reasonably muted volatility. Until the summer the S&P 500 had its longest streak without 2% decline since the start of the Great Financial Crisis back in 2007 lasting 356 trading sessions. The VIX hovered in the mid to low teens for much of the year though there were a couple of bouts of volatility including the one in August. That in part was caused by a growth scare following a weak jobs report but as we highlighted at the time it seemed to be more of an unwind of crowded positioning around the globe including the Yen carry trade triggering a bout of systematic de-risking. This led to the max drawn for the year which on a closing basis was 8.5% (just under 10% on an intraday peak-to-trough), slightly less than the median annual decline since the mid-1980s.

The election was expected to be a volatility inducing event and investors were looking for some pre-election weakness which never really came to fruition. The decisive victory by President-elect Trump led to a broad-based rally in US markets during the month of November. However, some of that optimism unwound in December as interest rates rose despite Fed cuts and a messy stop gap funding bill negotiation reminded investors of the slim margins in Congress, which will make it difficult to push forward the Trump agenda heading into 2025.

Coming into the year there was an expansion of breadth with the Fed pivot at the end of 2023. However, it was another choppy year for small/mid-cap stocks and cyclical sectors. There were a couple of bouts of outperformance including post-election, but the December selloff wiped out pretty much all of those gains. These indices were both up >10% for the year but underperformed the benchmark S&P 500 by ~10% for the second consecutive year.

Equity Sectors

Inside the Numbers - Data compliments of FactSet Earnings Insight as of January 10, 2025

Q3 Review

  • Q3 S&P 500 earnings +7.5% YoY, fifth consecutive quarterly increase
  • 75% of companies beat analyst estimates by an average of 4.6%
  • Q3 Revenue +5.5% the 16th consecutive quarter of growth

Q4 EPS Est. +11.7% YoY

  • Sectors with largest YoY growth
  • Financials (39.5%), Communication Services (20.8%), Info Tech (13.9%)
  • Sectors with largest YoY declines
  • Energy (-26.4%), Materials (-4.6%), Industrials (-3.7%)
  • Number and % of companies issuing negative guidance above historical averages (71 of 106 negative)

Q4 Revenues Est. 4.7% YoY

  • Largest increases: Info Tech (11.1%), Utilities (8.1%), Comm. Services (7.9%)
  • Largest declines: Energy (-2.6%), Industrials (-2.3%), Materials (-1.2%)
  • Q4 Net Profit Margin Est. 12.0% down from 12.2% last quarter

Capital return programs - Data compliments of S&P Global

  • Q3 programs were down 1.5% QoQ to $389.3B
  • Q3 buybacks down 4% QoQ to $226.6B
  • Number of firms carrying out buybacks up slightly from previous quarter
  • Top 20 companies executed 53.2% of buybacks up from 52.3% in the prior quarter
  • Q3 S&P 500 dividends increased 2.4% QoQ to a record $157B
  • New net buyback 1% excise tax impacted Q4 earnings by 0.42%

The Big Picture

Overall, Q3 earnings were pretty strong up 7.5% YoY. The average company beat estimates by 4.6%, though the percentage of companies which came in ahead of estimates was slightly below historical averages. Revenue growth ticked back above 5% with healthcare providing the biggest upside surprise while AI demand continued to drive double digit growth for info tech. Despite the solid results it felt like earnings took a back seat to the evolving macro backdrop and the election. Many of the same themes were prevalent with companies continuing to highlight efficiency measures which were helping the bottom line. Management teams continued to call out some global demand weakness particularly in China. AI related spending remained very strong though some suppliers faced some operational and margin challenges. The US consumer also remained resilient but has become increasingly more cost conscious.

Heading into the reporting season there has been an above average number and percentage of companies issuing negative guidance. This helped to drive a negative EPS revision of 2.7% since the end of Q3. However, that decline is below historical average of ~3.2% over the last 5/10/15yrs. According to FactSet analyst estimates are calling for 11.7% YoY EPS growth. This quarter I’d expect many of the themes to be very similar to what I discussed above, however there are some new challenges.

Sector EPS Growth Rates & Performance
Sector EPS Growth Rates & Performance

During Q4 domestic economic activity was strong with some signs of re-acceleration post-election but activity around the globe remained much more sluggish. Revenue growth has been moderating for the last two years but seems to be settling in between 4.5% - 5% or about ~2.5% real growth when compared to average PCE during Q4.

S&P 500 YoY Revenue Growth Rate
S&P 500 YoY Revenue Growth Rate

There are some signs that the destocking cycle which has been in place over the last couple of years may be coming to an end but some of the pickup in demand is likely a pull forward ahead of potential tariffs. Morgan Stanley highlights that the spread between ISM New Orders & Production has historically been a good predictor of this turn which ultimately leads to positive EPS revisions.

Destocking Cycle

Previous efforts to cut costs and improve efficiency should continue to support the bottom line and margins. This quarter gross margins are expected to tick down to 12.0% from 12.2% in Q2. Management teams have acknowledged that it is harder to pass on price increases to customers as the prolonged impact of inflation has taken its toll. This dynamic will make it more difficult to pass on costs associated with tariffs.

Other potential headwinds to margins:

  • Promotional holiday season
  • Rising manufacturing input costs
  • Oil prices up ~10% since the end of Q3
  • Increased logistics costs - re-routing, increasing freight rates

A concern for multinational companies, is the rally in the USD which is up nearly 10% since the end of Q3. Within the S&P 500 info tech, communication services and materials all have ~50% of their revenue coming from international markets. How this and the implementation of protectionist policies are impacting demand will be a hot topic. According to BofA this increase could be a 3% drag on S&P 500 earnings.

Multinational Companies

Over the same time period 10yr Treasury yields are up nearly 100bps despite the Federal Reserve cutting rates which is not typical (see Chart).

10 Year Yield Before & After First Fed Cut

Source: Apollo Chief Economist, Bloomberg

10 Year Yield Before & After First Fed Cut

Companies have done a good job of terming out their debt, but this can start to impact capital allocation decisions, loan growth and overall demand.

No Maturity Wall, Issuance Picks Up

The higher cost of capital, rising stock prices and investment in the business have impacted capital return programs. Total shareholder returns were down 1.5% on a QoQ basis driven by a 4% decline in buybacks. The biggest declines were in healthcare, consumer staples and info tech. The latter was down 6.4% QoQ but still made up ~28% of all buybacks for the quarter. Companies are getting less EPS bang for the buck as stock prices have moved higher and some management teams have become more price sensitive. However, dividends hit a new record up 2.4% QoQ.

S&P 500 Dividends vs Buybacks, $Billions
S&P Dow Jones Indices
S&P 500 Dividends vs Buybacks, $Billions

Financials will dominate the early part of earnings season and expectations are higher than they have been recently given the hope for an improved regulatory environment, an increase in capital markets activity and the steepening of the yield curve. Commentary around those topics and the macro environment will be closely watched given their unique vantage point.

Credit quality is one of the more anticipated aspects of bank earnings. There has been an increase in delinquency rates but much of that is happening within the lower income borrowers. Thus far there have not been signs of that spreading. Loan growth is expected to remain tepid with the recent backup in yields further pushing out a turn in demand.

Transition Into Serious Delinquency (90+) by Loan Type
Transition Into Serious Delinquency (90+) by Loan Type

AI will obviously continue to be a big topic of conversation with capex spending remaining top of mind. However, I think the AI trade and conversation will evolve this year as investors will be listening much more closely for signs that companies are implementing the technology. Morgan Stanley’s Quantitative Research team used a large language model to comb S&P 500 earnings call transcripts to see the number of companies that are providing a quantification of AI on their business. As you can see the number of companies providing that guidance has increased significantly in recent quarters and as that continues, I think those companies will be rewarded, though it is probably to early to drive a significant shift in the earnings trajectory.

AI

The most important part of earnings season is guidance and that is particularly true at the start of the year as management teams start to offer a more clear view of the year ahead. However, this year that may prove to be more difficult given the uncertainty related to Washington policy under the new administration. Expectations for an acceleration of EPS growth are very high with analysts looking for double digit earnings growth in 2025 across the S&P 400, 500 and 600.

EPS Estimates
EPS Estimates

Given the backdrop I think management teams will be conservative. That conservatism may come as a disappointment bringing back memories of last year. At the start of 2024 there were expectations for a broad-based earnings recovery however, as we enter Q4 earnings season the only index that is expected to post growth anywhere close to that initial estimate is the tech heavy S&P 500. This is the year where the earnings gap between the Mag 7 and the rest of the index is expected to narrow (see Chart from J.P. Morgan Asset Management below). Once again, we are starting the year with steeper cuts to estimates for the S&P 400 and 600 indices.

Earnings Growth
Pro forma EPS, estimates 4Q24 onwards, y/y
Earnings Growth

One of my big themes for themes for 2025 is the expectation for more volatility driven by policy uncertainty, geopolitical risk, sensitivity to economic data, Treasury market dynamics and crowded positioning. As equity markets have continued to hit new all-time highs multiples have expanded with the S&P 500 trading at 21.5X which leaves markets more susceptible to corrections. Those multiples already reflect some expectation for earnings growth to inflect higher.

With the inauguration next week and more policy certainty in the coming months, I think management teams will probably take a very conservative approach this quarter. This may disappoint the market but that step backwards could set the stage for a positive revision cycle throughout the year helped by a re-acceleration of economic activity, operating leverage built into business models and AI related gains potentially providing a kicker.